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Published:
August 11, 2008
It was
lunchtime in Midtown Manhattan last Tuesday, and streaming along 41st Street was the usual cavalcade of cars, pedestrians, bicyclists, even a skateboarder.
Amid the crowd was a more unusual sight: three people gliding along on Segways,
the two-wheeled, battery-powered human transporters.
Leading the trio was Itsi Atkins, who may be the city’s only
provider of Segway tours and lessons. His customers were Lauren Greenbaum, 20,
a senior at Queens
College, who was fulfilling a birthday gift to her boyfriend, Josh
Stein, 22, an intern at a Manhattan marketing firm.
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Hiroko
Masuike for The New York Times
Itsi Atkins,
who provides Segway tours and lessons in Manhattan, towed a malfunctioning
transporter as his patrons Lauren Greenbaum and Josh Stein followed near Times Square last week.
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“I was in Europe for a semester, and every country I went to had a Segway tour,” Mr. Stein said,
adjusting the Happy Birthday balloon on his handlebars. “They were crowded
around the Eiffel Tower, the Leaning Tower of Pisa.”
But in New York City, this birthday party on wheels was against the law. Five years after the
first Segways arrived in New York City and were greeted with curiosity and
bemusement, their use remains illegal — even after Gov. David
A. Paterson signed a law in July legalizing Segways everywhere else
in the state.
Officials
in New York City, where many streets are already clogged with taxis, tourists,
dogs and double-wide strollers, deliberately asked lawmakers to leave the city
out of the bill.
“But we are
always open to new ideas and new evidence,” Ted Timbers, a Department of
Transportation spokesman, wrote in an e-mailed response to questions. “And the
city will monitor and learn from the experiences of other cities and states
that permit registration and use of Segways.”
The state
law treats the Segway much like a bicycle, allowing riders on public bike
paths, bike lanes, and roadways with speed limits below 30 miles per hour.
Operators must be at least 16 years old and must wear helmets. Permitting
Segways on sidewalks is a decision the law leaves to local governments.
“I think
it’ll be the thing of the future for some people,” said Assemblyman Joseph R.
Lentol, a Democrat from Brooklyn who was one of the sponsors of the bill. “It
gives us another alternative transportation source.”
Segways are
not completely illegal in New York City. The Police Department started using
them last year to patrol the city’s parks and boardwalks.
But beyond
that, Mr. Atkins believed the number of people with Segways in New York to be quite small, about 30 or so by his count.
“When the
first bike was introduced in the 1880s, it received the same welcome we
received,” said Mr. Atkins, who describes his business and passion for the
vehicles on a Web site, segwaynyc.com. “Hopefully it won’t take 100
years for us to become part of the infrastructure.”
Mr. Atkins
owns six Segways and charges $100 per person for a two-hour lesson. The city
considers Segways motor vehicles and consequently, riding one carries the risk
of being ticketed for operating an unregistered and uninsured vehicle. But
since he bought his first Segway in 2003, Mr. Atkins said, police officers have
stopped him only to ask for a ride. He shrugged off the new law.
“Legal is a
state of mind,” Mr. Atkins said. “Green is a state of being.”
Segway
Inc., based in Bedford, N.H., promotes its product as an environmentally
friendly alternative to driving. But the combination of the Segway’s weight (up
to 130 pounds) and speed (12.5 m.p.h. is the maximum) makes advocates for
pedestrians and bicycles resistant to sharing the road.
“To
introduce a foreign, unproven, untested element into the mix complicates the
job before us, which is to make the most efficient use of city streets,” said Noah
Budnick, deputy director of Transportation Alternatives, a New York advocacy
group.
After
battling the state for seven years, the Segway company is in no rush to direct
its lobbying efforts toward the city.
“We haven’t
formulated a strategy; we haven’t reached out to city officials,” said Matt
Dailida, Segway’s director of governmental affairs. “I expect the city process
to be just as long as it was up in Albany.”
New York
Motorcycles, a shop in Queens Village that carries Segways, says it sells about
200 of them a year, mostly to police departments and private security
companies, but hopes sales will increase because of the new law.
“In the
past, when an individual would call, they’d get shot down when we told them
they weren’t legal,” said Joel Metter, the shop’s general manager. “For people
who have a hard time walking, or need to cover some ground, it’s a freedom
machine.”
Mr. Stein
had been looking forward to his turn on a Segway for months.
“It feels
like swimming for the first time,” he said.
“I would
love to get one,” Ms. Greenbaum said. But she said the $5,300 price tag was
even more of an obstacle than the law.
Their tour
through New York City started at the United
Nations, headed west to Times Square and then north and east to the Queensboro Bridge. People stared and laughed, the couple said, and the few police
officers
they passed “didn’t seem to mind.”
“People
move out of the way for us,” Mr. Stein said.
“Which is
nice,” Ms. Greenbaum said. “I’ve never had that happen in New York before.”
More Articles in New York Region » A version of this
article appeared in print on August 12, 2008, on page B6 of the New York edition.
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| Posted by: Itsi Atkins |
7/26/2008 2:51 AM |
| First of all thank you for your amazing site. Your blogging is thorough
and succinct.
I'm cannot tell you how disheartened I am by the Governors ruling
against Segways - especially since he is disabled! Could this have
anything to do with the fear of potential lost revenue in the subway/bus
system by the throngs of people adopting Segways instead of mass trasit?
Is it about fear of rubbernecking drivers who are going to fenderdent
another? What possible justification is there for this? I really
don't get it!
Our politicians are promoting electric cars, our newscasters are telling
us about "new energy solutions", we even have a green network, but it
doesn't matter. My opinion --- we are not ready as a society to accept
and adapt --- we hate change. We are afraid. Afraid that we might
fall over, we might look stupid, we would lose control, we would get
hurt, we might love it but then can't afford it, we might get in trouble
with the cops, it would get stolen, it might malfunction. . . we are
even afraid of progress.
New York was once the most progressive city in the world, lately the
wheels of evolution have gotten clogged. The Segway, a non-polluting
vehicle that does not contribute to our dependency on oil or to
greenhouse gases is an American invention that defies the descriptions
and laws created for all past modes of transportation. Despite its
efficiency lawmakers have shoved it into a too small box. In New York,
new bike lanes have been created, but Segway riders are not allowed?
America was once the land of the free and home of the brave. Segway
drivers add to the fabulous Quilt of Humanity that is New York. Isn't
that partially why we all came here, to be amongst progress? If so, why
the resistance? Why then do we allow the fear of the future to hinder
us from seeing the good that is here right now? While the Segway may
not be for everyone, those who do not applaud this amazing new
technology as a possible solution to a crippling problem are either
small-minded and ignorant or fear-mongering Luddites. It's been six
years since the introduction of "Ginger" and five years since President
Bush failed to heed directions and "fell off". It is time we get people
to take another look?
I am ready to join forces. If you are up for it, together we might be
able to do something to fight this ruling --- after all, Bloomberg likes
Segways. I am committing myself and my resources to this cause. I have
access to four Segways and I have Segway dancers. Let's figure out a
way to get some press that gets our cause to be heard. I have the moves
and you have the ideas. Let's figure out a plan and get others to be
involved.
Christopher Harrison, President
AntiGravity Inc.
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Re: What others are saying about NYC |
By itsiatkins on
7/27/2008 12:25 AM |
Congratulations, Matt, on the first EPAMD law (S07509A) that equates Segways with motor vehicles without granting them motor vehicle rights, does not make them legal on sidewalks, requires helmets on all gliders ($50 fine) and declares them totally illegal in the largest city in the nation. "THE OPERATION OF ELECTRIC PERSONAL ASSISTIVE MOBILITY DEVICES IN A CITY HAVING A POPULATION OF ONE MILLION OR MORE IS PROHIBITED."
Some people will say that at least this is a start. But ask yourself this: Are the Segway owners of New York State any better off today than they were yesterday? Certainly the Segway owners of New York City are not.
Members of TA are probably dancing in the street tonight. __________________
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By itsiatkins on
7/27/2008 12:38 AM |
I think that Matt has to focus on state law rather than local. Granted that NYC has a population that exceeds several states, but still his focus needs to remain on a national level. It's now in the hands of the gliding voters in the Empire State to curb their own 'evil empire'. I don't know about NYC, but I do know that if someone came down here to Virginia from New Hampshire (or any other state - nothing personal implied in that) and tried to tell our county or town what to do, they wouldn't get very far. I had a heck of a time getting our politicos to admit that Segways could be on the sidewalks, and I LIVE HERE! And Matt was a GREAT help with that, adding both moral support and good suggestions/ideas. Spend two minutes talking with him and you realize what a real pro he is. It's largely because of him and his advice that I was able to get things settled here. Reading the new NY EPAMD law, and all the stuff that was included in it, you can see what he had to deal with. I get the mental image of every legislator in Albany wanting to add their own paragraph to it in order to satisfy their own egos. I think that he had his hands full, and that he was lucky to get what he did from them! __________________
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By itsiatkins on
7/27/2008 12:30 AM |
I've read over that several times too, and I'm not sure about it because there seems to be a pair of similar but different phrases with seperate definitions: "(a) electrically-driven mobility assistance devices operated or driven by a person with a disability" and then it is immediately followed by "(A-1) ELECTRIC PERSONAL ASSISTIVE MOBILITY DEVICES". And the whole purpose of S 125 seems to be to define what is and is not a "motor vehicle". I wish that they had just added a specific line about people with disabilities using EPAMDs being exempt from the sidewalk law. That would have been a heck of a lot clearer. By adding sub (A-1), they make it look to my layman's eyes as not being included under the 'protection' of S 125 (a). But maybe they didn't want it clear so that it gets challenged in Federal Court, and then they can point their fingers at DC rather than accept responsibility in Albany. Who knows... __________________
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By itsiatkins on
7/27/2008 12:32 AM |
This is typical of JohnM's "remote" position regarding matters Segway: not a Segway owner himself and merely comments about things "over there."
From my point of view as a Segway owner and a resident of Florida, a state with much saner and more reasonable, more "hands off" EPAMD legislation, it is yet incumbent upon us OWNERS to take the "proaction" ourselves.
Though favorable legislation does indeed help in getting Segways accepted for general use in public areas, it's only a gesture if it doesn't somehow trickle on down to local levels. I've experienced that myself in my area.
Again, in Pinellas County, I just happened to meet the county executive over its parks who just happened, himself, to be pro-Segway, and therefore, on his own initiative, coupled with the Florida statutes, granted specific permission for Segway use in county parks.
And in another matter which I, myself, was involved in and in which I myself took some proacive action, I communicated with a district commander of our town's police department to politely inquire over Segway use in one Pinellas county park in particular for which the police had jurisdiction, it being adjacent to city limits and it being a beach park with high attendance and requiring special monitoring by the police.
General Segway acceptance is going to be driven ultimately by Segway users and their interaction with their respective governmental bodies. We are, after all a democracy, and as such, WE are responsible for the quality of it. IT'S UP TO US, yes, INDIVIDUALLY (despite how "scary" or despite "how difficult" that may be) to make our voices heard and to be persistent in getting our respective officials EDUCATED as to the special qualities of Segway use, so that they can recoginize it for what it is, as different from every other mode of transportation, and, because of that, grant it special permission for uses in places and manners not granted to other different modes.
For example, and as a hedge against possible future restriction against Segway use in my community, once more of them come into use as more people move into new condo residences downtown, I plan on making occasional pro-Segway presentations to our city council.
So I think SegSailor is spot on in his assessment of the matter. As difficult as it may be to get Segway use in New York LESS restricted and even permitted, perhaps with some REASONABLE restrictions, in NYC, it's going to take some action on local levels.
Though that could indeed be a tall order for NYC. As "ballsy" as Jonathan has been, he's, after all, "only" a Brooklynite. So all you NYC underground Segway users better strap on the ol' brass cojones and take some action!
Quote: Originally Posted by JohnM Will Segway Inc now take an proactive roll in acquiring the green light for sidewalk use in NY's counties and towns? Or does Matt declare 'Mission Accomplished" and move on to ..... Massachusetts? __________________
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